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#81 - 01/15/13 02:09 AM the missing piece
Mme Katorga Offline



Registered: 11/11/12
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For you bondage lovers, is there always a missing piece in your bondage scenario that you mentally design and re-design? Are you fantasizing about getting a new piece of gear already on the market? Saving up for something?

Post links and ideas for "the missing piece", bondage gear lovers! I can always use the inspiration.

For me, I've been mentally designing the perfect strappy head harness that includes D rings for immobilizing the head, not just at the top, but in key places. My fantasy piece fits over various hoods and head sizes with adjustable buckles. So far, the pieces on the market past and present that I've worked with just don't do the trick. I think I'm going to have to have the 'strappy overlay' made for me, at this point. which is very fun to contemplate.

I admit that solving "the problem" of getting the head just where I want it is part of the pleasure of putting someone into bondage and there will always be other ways to achieve the function, but as of the writing of this post - this is 'the missing piece' for me.

What about you?
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#112 - 01/24/13 01:39 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mme Katorga]
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One of my problems with figuring out new bondage ideas is simply having someone to work on who is patient enough to be a bondage guinea pig. Working out little intricacies on someone who is there to play is tricky. How do you work that out?
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#113 - 01/24/13 01:39 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mme Katorga]
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One of my problems with figuring out new bondage ideas is simply having someone to work on who is patient enough to be a bondage guinea pig. Working out little intricacies on someone who is there to play is tricky. How do you work that out?
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#275 - 02/05/13 02:22 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mme Katorga]
MsShaeFlanigan Offline



Registered: 01/14/13
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Loc: California, USA
@ Mistress Wynter you may want to try putting a shout out for guinea pigs or go to a "bondage night" at a local dungeon. smile


Edited by MsShaeFlanigan (02/05/13 02:23 PM)
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#277 - 02/05/13 02:40 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: MsShaeFlanigan]
Mistress Wynter Offline



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What? Go out in public??? Lol! I'm the absolute worst at doing public things! Honestly, most of the time I'll be in the middle of doing bondage and an idea crosses my mind and I have to decide whether or not to put the poor sod through it while I work it out or just remember it for later.

I opt to do neither.

Perhaps your way IS better! laugh

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#294 - 02/06/13 02:25 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mistress Wynter]
Mme Katorga Offline



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That's a tricky question. I'll just give you some things that I've done that may strike a chord for you.
I suppose for me I got much more adept when I had the ability to experiment on a personal play partner who was open to it. That's the first place I really worked out some of the 'beyond the basics'. I didn't have the pressure of "doing it perfectly" the first time. I was also able to poll him for reactions and experiences after the fact which gave me a deeper understanding of bondage. Since the bondage top's experience is very different from the bondage bottom, that was an important part of things for me.

Another thought would be, if you want to explore more in that way, putting a call out for someone interested in coming in for a session where timing was a shared consideration. Perhaps putting a little new thing up on your site - where you will be covered for X amount of session time and then you give X amount of extra time to experiment on them. Everyone wins and you'd be able to then move on from that once you get what you want out of it. It happens in your dungeon on your terms that way, rather than in a public place & maybe it brings in someone new who will be fun to bond with over your new bondage experiments.

Classes are also good for this, particularly if you can reward a great subbie by bringing them to class with you so you can immediately reiterate what you've just learned on them which helps solidify the new skills.

Because I enjoy and put together some very extended encounters at my space that gives me a lot of time to play around and experiment. It's how the little intricacies have been worked out quite often for me, during "all day encounters". That's quite often a part of the whole session we're doing already. I get to enjoy myself, they have a lot of time, there's no rush.

A lot of it, for me, is just really loving the entire process and ritual of putting someone into new bondage which lead to just experimenting on willing victims. It's like working a mental puzzle or a 3D puzzle or artwork all the time.
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#734 - 02/17/13 09:38 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mme Katorga]
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Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 23
Loc: Maryland, USA
Ms. Wynter, any time you want someone to practice bondage on, let me know. I've taken a lot of rope courses, but have no one to practice on, nor anyone to practice on me. It's like one hand clapping. But of course, I'm sure you can find many partners to practice on if you wanted some.

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#736 - 02/17/13 09:58 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mme Katorga]
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Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 23
Loc: Maryland, USA
The missing piece is, especially in "lifestyle" play is proficiency. Many times I have to pretend to be "bound" when the cuff is too loose, or the ropes sloppily set. I've had to hold ropes in place to maintain the illusion of being bound, or had to hold my tongue when the bondage was too tight, knowing it wasn't going to last long anyway. With some players it's just as well that the bondage is too loose, it makes me feel safer that I can easily escape if need be.

Otherwise, what's missing is absolute immobility. Very few people can achieve that on another person. It is very, very hard to do. I was once bound, basically wrapped head to foot in saran wrap and duct tape, I was a total cocoon, so you'd thnk that would achieve total immobility. But I could still bend my body, still bend my legs, still wriggle and roll and flex various parts of me. Different story if I'd been taped to a pole, for instance. See the difference? Total immobility is most often missing, but for very good reason -- it's really, really hard to do.

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#806 - 02/20/13 12:12 AM Re: the missing piece [Re: Downlow]
Mme Katorga Offline



Registered: 11/11/12
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area - ...
Oh dear. Well, pretending to be bound might be good for you in the moment to keep the energy moving forward but I hope you let them know, gently, afterwards so they can work on their skills. Better yet, you should ask them out to some rope classes in your area some time. I know a number of great bondage tops who got their start learning the ropes by hitting up some of those local workshops with someone they session with or met at a munch.

Now, as to immobility...
To be honest, I would never assume saran and duct tape would provide immobility on its own. It's a lot of fun because one can move. Making someone squirm about the dungeon floor is the purpose of that kind of mummification for me. Love to see those bondage bottoms wiggle across the floor to try to kiss a toe... or worse.

I am a fan of playing around with immobility. I suppose it's a hobby.
I designed (and need to re-design now that I've had it for a couple of years) a kind of flat, padded stokes litter in steel for suspended bondage that allows me to play with variations on mobility.

Total immobility is a challenge when it comes to fingers and toes, I can agree with that. I've done it, not easily, but it's possible. Yoga Toes help!

But in terms of fully fixing the human body in place? I've made it incredibly easy to do this with a willing victim in my dungeon. The right tools for the job, for me, involve the 'stokes', leather straps, and a few pieces of high quality bondage gear. I'm not a rope lover.

Ratchet straps and a body bag are even easier, of course. I always chuckle a little when I put a strap around the feet as the final piece with a sleep sack.

I do think immobility can be a challenge. You might be surprised by how incredibly hard it can be for the bondage puppet to endure, particularly with the neck and head fastened.
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#4506 - 05/18/15 12:18 PM Re: the missing piece [Re: Mme Katorga]
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Registered: 03/25/14
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Loc: LA and Paris
Im always excited for new toys!! This might be next! https://www.pinterest.com/pin/484629609871575266/
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